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#4896 – examinergate, pt 3

so here’s the response i got from the baltimore examiner:

From: demanuel@baltimoreexaminer.com

Subject: Photo.

Date: November 1, 2007 10:15:10 AM EDT

To: glenn@glennfitzpatrick.com

Dear Glenn,

Regarding the Roller Girls photo on Page 2 of the Oct. 31 edition of the

Baltimore Examiner, permission was granted from Molly O’Donnell to our

reporter to use the photo. She did mention that you were the photographer,

but we don’t use photo captions and credits on page 2.

I hope this clears it up.

Sincerely,

David Emanuel

Special Features Editor

er,

this is where the blame shifts completely over to the examiner, since she mentioned that i was the photographer, so they KNEW i was the photographer, and yet they didn’t bother to get my permission?? and what is this bit about “we don’t use photo captions and credits on page 2 business?? in the words of will smith,

so i figured it was time to get my photojournalism instructor on the case. this is what i told him:

I find it suspect that when their reporter was told that the photo was taken by someone else that they didn’t attempt to confirm with the photographer whether or not they had license and permission to use the image. Also the no-citing bit. It really calls into question their journalistic integrity when they aren’t attempting to verify or cite their sources.

cynicalscribe also was going to poke at her old media law professor to see what’s what. shortly after that i got this response from my photojournalism prof:

yea, i agree, its really poor judgement on their part and simply unethical. the response is unacceptable. Molly O donnell cannot by law grant permission to use a photograph that is not hers. You own the copyright no questions asked. They are wrong and owe you compensation and credit. Don’t back off.

this is where it’s on like el kabong!

another 30 minutes or so pass by and i get another message from the newspaper:

From: demanuel@baltimoreexaminer.com

Subject: Again, apologies.

Date: November 1, 2007 11:33:02 AM EDT

To: glenn@glennfitzpatrick.com

Glenn, just wanted to again assure you that this was nothing intentional.

It’s just that for a page such as this that we run every day (it’s called

Good Day, on Page 2, with a listing of events), that we run small photos

that we are given permission for. The reporter has done this for years, and

always checks for permission. We simply just don’t run photo credits with

these photos, because 99.99 percent of the time, the publicity people who

have the photo, and the photographers themselves, have already granted

consent to run them as publicity shots.

In this case, Molly was obviously doing her job and unknowingly granted

permission that she thought was already there. And don’t worry about getting

Molly involved. Like I said, she was clearly just doing her job there, and

did point out in her email that you did take the photo.

Anyway, Glenn, take care, and sorry for any misunderstandings.

Sincerely,

David Emanuel

with my photojournalism instructor advising me just after i received that:

Yea, I actually called to see what was going on. The editor will email back a better description of why the photo was used without your direct permission. I think that it was unintentional and I think they see where they made a mistake. Hopefully it won’t happen again, I think thats all you can really expect at this point.

harumph.

the beefs that i still have:

first, they should still cite the sources for their photos on this page, even if it’s just listed as “courtesy photo” when provided by the group publicizing the event. second, they were told that the photo was taken by someone else, and should have confirmed the use of the photo. it’s still a newspaper column using photography not under license no matter if they say “we’re sorry”. the big question will be “is it worth it to pursue further?” i mean, as carrie put it, it’s not like it’s clipart on the events bulletin board down at the local senior center, is it?

no word yet from carrie’s media law professor, but two of my fraternity alumni are in law school and want to research my options and consult their professors to get some law experience under their belts. i’m wondering if i should email that guy back now and say “i appreciate the apology, but i consider the matter to still be open and again request credit and compensation for unlicensed use of my photography” and tell them how their reporter should have sourced the photo to verify usage rights before using it (especially since they were told who the photographer is), or if i should wait until i hear back from more people, or what? i’ll sit on this for now, need to head out to harm city homicide team meeting — johnhr11 and i are going to bring some LCA organization to the business side of HCH!

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#4895 – examinergate, pt 2

Subject: Copyright Agent — 2007-10-31 Page 2, Photo Infringement

From: glenn@glennfitzpatrick.com

Date: November 1, 2007 2:02:27 AM EDT

To: legal@examiner.com

Cc: FKEEGAN@BALTIMOREEXAMINER.COM, MBEATTY@BALTIMOREEXAMINER.COM

Dear Sirs:

I found that a photo of mine was used without my permission on page 2 of the October 31, 2007 print edition of the Baltimore Examiner (accompanying the segment titled “Roller Derby”).

This photo is depicting two of the Charm City Roller Girls skating in a match between the teams “Night Terrors” and “Speed Regime” during their championship on October 14, 2007. I affirm under penalty of perjury that I hold the copyright for this image, that I have not given authorization for this image to be used by the Baltimore Examiner, and that the information contained in this mailing is true.

I request credit to be printed in a retraction and compensation for this infringement.

Signed,

Glenn Fitzpatrick

glenn@glennfitzpatrick.com

(other personal contact info went here)

short and sweet! let’s see what they offer in reply…

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#4894 – examinergate

ok, so i’ve got a theory or two about what might have happened. but i’m not sure. after all, they’re just theories. all i know is that i got a message that i would “likely” see a picture i took along with credit, and that it was assumed that it was ok to be used since i allow downloads on flickr.

point #1: i don’t know if the image was offered to the examiner, or if the examiner somehow found it on their own and either asked “hey, can we use this?” and the reply was “sure, he has downloads enabled, go ahead” or what. either way, i wasn’t contacted about this ahead of time. ultimately, in my not-so-authoritative opinion, i’d think the examiner is the infringer here since they’re the ones actually printing the image.

point #2: let’s say that i was contacted about it ahead of time. for the way that it was used, you bet i’d have asked not only for credit but for $ compensation from whoever’s using it. the examiner has a circulation of 250,000+ (as compared to the baltimore sun’s 246,000) [source], that’s a quarter of a million people. my photojournalism instructor turned me on to fotoquote for determining pricing, and for an image that’s about 1/4 of a page that appears to be part of an ad that will be seen by 250,000 to 500,000 people… well, that’s a good chunk of money.

point #3: sure, i’ve got downloads enabled, but that’s not for commercial groups to pick out photos to use as they need ’em. it’s for regular folks to use photos noncommercially. i’ve let ccrg use my photos for their website/program in the past because a) it’s a relatively small, targeted audience, b) it’s volunteer-based, and c) i was asked in advance if they could use photos with credit in the programs. also, using the photos on the website and in the programs is more of an editorial use, illustrating what happened at the previous bout. it’s a lot of work and time/equipment/maintenance = $$$, but i get into the bouts for free so i guess it evens out a little bit. i also suppose that when i’m at a bout taking/editing photos, i feel like i’m more like a fan… off the rink, i think more about advancing my photography business if i ever want to do photography professionally in some capacity.

but basically, i see two reasons why my photo was used:

  • by the examiner in order to illustrate the blurb that they either wrote or were provided about the upcoming event, or
  • by ccrg in order to illustrate their advertisement about the upcoming event

    (what concerns me about point #1 is that if it was submitted to the paper — i don’t know if that option is for only online submissions or if sending something there goes into the print edition too… either way i can’t find any evidence that it’s on the website — their terms of use state something like their liability for material is limited to $100, and this image costs way more than that for the size of the image and the circulation of the paper. also, it states that the examiner can’t be held liable for person A posting infringing material that belongs to person B if person B gets upset. but again, i think that these terms of use apply strictly to the site itself and not the printed paper.)

    i just hope that i’ll be able to be paid by the examiner and not have to invoice ccrg for the use of this photo in what amounts to a commercial advertisement that i didn’t give permission for. in other words, i’d prefer to be more of a dick to the editors of the examiner than folks i know with ccrg about being compensated. 🙂

    my photojournalism instructor called me today while i was at work (i sent him an email about it) and he asked if i would like him to call the examiner on my behalf and i told him no, that’s ok… for now. i said that i’d like at least to try contacting them myself first at least. he brought up the ads from virgin mobile using flickr images (which i saw on the internets before) and did a small rant about publications that are gung-ho about accepting citizen-journalist submissions. he sounded like he really wanted to complain to the paper about it. part of our conversation went something like this:

    him: “how big is the examiner?”

    me: “uh, well, it’s about the same size as the baltimore sun…”

    him: “do they think they’re a real newspaper or just some rinky-dink publication??”

    (he also mentioned how he needs some paid help with editing some wedding photos and asked if i’d be interested, which is awesome.) he later replied to my original email about it with “those dirty rats… they should be hung from their toenails etc”, and that cracked me up. kind of a “you already know that they should be hung up by their toenails, so you should know what else should be done to them”, hahaha… i don’t think he has much patience for newspapers that like to steal content.

    i found a thing on the examiner’s website for having infringing stuff taken down with the email address legal @ baltimoreexaminer.com, but it’s for the website only. i think i’ll may just email that address and copy the editor / publisher as spelchec suggested, since i can’t find any other contact information on the site. i just hope he doesn’t decide to point a shotgun at me! (NICE!) but i found their “main phone number” too, so maybe i should call that instead? i don’t know…

    whatever i do, i’m first going to drive back to the apartment. my new pants are out of the dryer!

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    #4892 – work work work

    so i’ve been busy lately. super busy. i played hooky from my statistics class so i could get some stuff done at the apartment (things like overdue laundry, yay non-stinky clothes) that i wouldn’t be able to get done until this weekend otherwise. also so i could go to bed early — if i went to class, i’d be getting back about 10 pm, and then i’d still have to have dinner and start the laundry and stuff like that. i’m going to go to bed in a few minutes since i just heard the dryer finish its job.

    i got leopard the other day, it’s pretty neat. i’ve been playing around with it a lot, but it sucks that there’s no livejournal client for mac os 10.5 yet (xjournal doesn’t work in it yet, and though i heard ijournal works it looks too ugly… nevermind that i used to use ijournal back in the day!). i made a webclipping of the lj posting form from the livejournal webpage for dashboard, so at least i can use this in the meantime. works pretty well too! i just can’t exit out of the dashboard or else i think i’ll lose my entry, at least the part that wasn’t autosaved. (nevermind, it won’t let me post from the webclipping. phooey!)

    i applied for a position with the IT department at work as a “member of technical staff” today, we’ll have to see how that goes. i hope i get the job, i want something new to do and this having to answer the phones when i’m on the internet response team is getting to be real annoying for me since i hate talking on the phone — i’m a much more visual person, so it’s a lot easier for me to explain to people about their issue when i can draw diagrams and such. i’m still keeping an eye out for other positions elsewhere just in case i don’t get it. i found this funny job description on the usajobs.gov site:

    no limits! no bounds! (except being able to type 40 wpm!)

    cynicalscribe and i went to a halloween party that some of my old coworkers were hosting and partying it up at… we went as boris and natasha from “rocky and bullwinkle”. at least when we do get a break from work we get to go out and have fun together. 🙂